Journal3, Webp no support in Safari and LSCache

[AndreyPopov]

Anyway, my advice is reduce the number of items and images in listings and startpage.

about startpage I know and understand.

more important faster Products Catalog.

 

[serpent_driver]

"Reduce to the Max"

 

[AndreyPopov]

now testing these rules:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "iPad" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isiPad]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "iPhone|iPod" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isiPhone]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "GoogleBot|YandexBot|BingBot" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isBots]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Mac|OS X|macOS" [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "!Safari" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isRetinaNoMac]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Mac|OS X|macOS" [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Safari" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isRetinaMac]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Android" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isMobile]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Win" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isWin]

 

[serpent_driver]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Mac|OS X|macOS" [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "!Safari" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isRetinaNoMac] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Mac|OS X|macOS" [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Safari" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isRetinaMac]

You seem not to understand, what you are doing?

These rules mean, if I have 4 wheels I am not a car, but if I have 4 wheels I am a car....

 

[AndreyPopov]

You seem not to understand, what you are doing?

These rules mean, if I have 4 wheels I am not a car, but if I have 4 wheels I am a car....

Safari not support webp images. on MacOS Journal3 use high res (retina) images jpg.
but if user use Chrome on MacOS then Journal3 use high res (retina) images webp.

may be better replace !Safari for Chrome,Opera,Firefox?

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Mac|OS X|macOS" [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Chrome|Opera|Firefox" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isRetinaNoSafari]

 

[serpent_driver]

Again, you don't know what you are doing.

This rule mean:
If I am Mac OR OS X OR macOS OR Chrome OR Opera OR Firefox then give me no Retina images. Does this make sense....?

Sorry, I am out of here.

 

[AndreyPopov]

If I am Mac OR OS X OR macOS OR Chrome OR Opera OR Firefox then give me no Retina images. Does this make sense....?

how right write:
1. if (Mac OR OS X OR macOS) AND (Saafari)
2. (Mac OR OS X OR macOS) AND (Chrome OR Opera OR Firefox)
?????

I think OR between two RewriteCond is [OR] ?
by default means AND?

 

[AndreyPopov]

some corrections:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "iPad" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isiPad]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "iPhone|iPod" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isiPhone]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "GoogleBot|YandexBot|BingBot" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isBots]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Mac" [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "!Chrome|Opera|Firefox" [NC]  RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "!Mobile" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isMacSafari]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Android" [NC]  RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Mobile" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isMobile]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "Win" [NC]  RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "!Mobile" [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=isWin]

or may be right syntax for NOT must be:
"!(Chrome|Opera|Firefox)" ?!?!?!

 

[AndreyPopov]

write rules - purge cache - test
write rules - purge cache - test
write rules - purge cache - test

not all work correct.

think, think, think ........

no need lscache for Google and others bots
no need lscache for Google Page Speed Insights
no need lscache for iPad, iPhone and Mac

what is right rules for disable lscache for these platforms?!?!?!?!?!?!

I add

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} Bot|Insights|Lighthouse|iPad|iPhone|iPod|Mac [NC] RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:no-cache]

but not sure that is right

 

[serpent_driver]

There is no right code!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This task can't be solved with cache rules. What you need is a complete different solution based on Client Side Includes (Javascript). Look for a developer who is able to develop a OpenCart plugin that does the same as the current plugin for webp image, but this plugin must handle image selection on-the-fly with Client Side Includes.

 

[AndreyPopov]

I can disable lscache for pages or routes in LSCache Control Panel

for example:
cache for Home Page enabled




cache for Home Page disabled


and all UAs not use lscache for Home Page.


if I can sets vary for UA why I cannot sets no-cache for UA?
question: how?


I not need lscache for Googlebot, users not need lscache for Google bot.
I and users need correct indexing of pages (speed no matter)
when lscache disabled for Googlebot then Googlebot use only Journal algorithm and all pages indexed right.

I want try disable lscache for some UAs.

 

[serpent_driver]

question: how?

Because this settings name is "Page related" and not UA related. If you want such function you must add this function to plugin or disable UA in .htaccess.

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "iPad" [NC]
RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:no-cache]

Everything you want to know can be found in documentation:
https://www.litespeedtech.com/support/wiki/doku.php/litespeed_wiki:cache:no-plugin-setup-guidline
https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_rewrite.html

 

[AndreyPopov]

or disable UA in .htaccess

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "iPad" [NC]
RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:no-cache]

I must add condition and rule for each UA?
or I can combine UAs in one condition?

 

[serpent_driver]

I must add condition and rule for each UA?
or I can combine UAs in one condition?

You can mix them however you need it. Reed documentation about Apache Rewrite Rules
------->>>>>> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_rewrite.html <<<<<<---------

 

[AndreyPopov]

You can mix them however you need it. Reed documentation about Apache Rewrite Rules

hoster provide

$_SERVER['LSWS_EDITION']    Openlitespeed 1.6.14

not Apache

on Apache guide:

RewriteCond  "%{HTTP_USER_AGENT}"  "(iPhone|Blackberry|Android)"

all in quotas

in LiteSpeed guide:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} iPad|Android [NC]
RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:vary=istablet]

no quotas

anybody know what right syntax?
if I want disable lscache for UAs in .htaccess:

- all bots
- Google Page Speed Insights
- iPad
- iPhone
- all Mac OS devices

 

[serpent_driver]

not Apache

Nonsense! LSWS uses Apache directive. You MUST use Apache rewrite rules. There are no other!

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "bot|spider|crawler|ipad|iphone|mac os|chrome-lighthouse" [NC]
RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:no-cache]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "(bot|spider|crawler|ipad|iphone|mac os|chrome-lighthouse)" [NC]
RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:no-cache]

 

[cafemasasandalye]

Hi, @AndreyPopov

were you able to run stably?

 

[AndreyPopov]

were you able to run stably?

not yet. testing .....

 

[cafemasasandalye]

There are many missing ones right now. Maybe we use a proper update.

 

[AndreyPopov]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "(bot|spider|crawler|ipad|iphone|mac os|chrome-lighthouse)" [NC]
RewriteRule .* - [E=Cache-Control:no-cache]

I cannot understand how many time need that rules in .htaccess applied.
I add rules, clear all possible caches, but ...... rules not applied after that.
what control when rules from .htaccess applied?